tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post4722546405209565700..comments2024-03-28T03:33:21.028-04:00Comments on The Book Rat: AUSTEN'S BAD BOYS: an interview-based discussionMistyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11436497955518156688noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-92106837263584574592014-08-22T15:25:50.872-04:002014-08-22T15:25:50.872-04:00I don't know! Austen wrote such good rakes. Ea...I don't know! Austen wrote such good rakes. Each of them has a speck of goodness. I really can't choose!Cerihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01908542708518435282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-7350501654025741972014-08-22T05:02:13.146-04:002014-08-22T05:02:13.146-04:00I think Wickham. He is unconscionable. He wouldn...I think Wickham. He is unconscionable. He wouldn't have married Lydia if he hadn't been forced to. He tried to elope with Georgiana for her money & I am sure he would've left her somewhere once he had it. I am positive he seduced many others with his charm & good looks. Deborah Annhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18440423047233791148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-82922856646356302602014-08-19T22:00:29.699-04:002014-08-19T22:00:29.699-04:00Wow, sorry for the typos. I've really got to s...Wow, sorry for the typos. I've really got to stop responding using my phone ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-11684576750511885372014-08-19T21:59:02.153-04:002014-08-19T21:59:02.153-04:00I'm still in the camp that think Henry Crawfor...I'm still in the camp that think Henry Crawford would have been reformed if he stayed with Fanny. So Willoughby it is for me; I think he is the most self interested and I'm sure he ran around being all debauched after his wedding to Miss Grey while constantly throwing himself a pity party. But it we look at all characters, I agree that Frederick Tilney is probably the biggest rake of Austen!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-51262031960452883172012-08-20T13:48:25.055-04:002012-08-20T13:48:25.055-04:00I'm for Willoughby, and I think Laurie summed ...I'm for Willoughby, and I think Laurie summed up my feelings about him very well. As for Mr. Robert Ferrars, I think Lucy was in the driving wheel of that escapade. His biggest fault is being inane enough to think it all a very good joke on his brother. However, what do you think of Edward Ferrars? We let him off the hook pretty easily for engaging another lady's feelings while obliged to another.Alexa Adamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10086472405632748174noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-63125529301302199982012-08-20T11:22:19.420-04:002012-08-20T11:22:19.420-04:00I put my vote in for Crawford! He's the most i...I put my vote in for Crawford! He's the most interesting character in Mansfield Park. Hurrah! Even though he's clearly an ass, I still root for him because the book would be so much more interesting if Fanny threw off caution and went for it. Plus, that actor is gorgeous in a rakish way.<br /><br />On a mostly unrelated note, the guys they cast as Willoughby and Wickham in the latest installments are ridiculous looking. I like the old school versions.Christinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00370486039531015541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-31225918077798189992012-08-19T20:58:32.973-04:002012-08-19T20:58:32.973-04:00Hey guys just got back for vacation and am finally...Hey guys just got back for vacation and am finally able to use my computer. I so need to chime in on this one. Wickham by far is the biggest rake because if you take all of his faults which, are great indeed you will find him in want of a good character. I don't think anyone can find one good thing about the man other than his looks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-40917098689331403752012-08-19T10:36:40.029-04:002012-08-19T10:36:40.029-04:00Wonderful discussion. I'm just jealous that I ...Wonderful discussion. I'm just jealous that I never thought to compare Thorpe to a pickled fish! Way to go Laurie Viera Rigler!Susan Kayehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16599394499288052327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-43908548710514290862012-08-18T03:16:19.388-04:002012-08-18T03:16:19.388-04:00Wickham and Willoughby genuinely fit the bill but ...Wickham and Willoughby genuinely fit the bill but what about Col. Tilney. He's a creep. You know he's got notches in every place he's encamped. He doesn't seem very redeeming. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-79197471687686929532012-08-18T00:37:18.436-04:002012-08-18T00:37:18.436-04:00Oh, I fully intend to talk about LIA's Wickham...Oh, I fully intend to talk about LIA's Wickham (and some other character shake-ups) at some point. I sort of wanted her to end up with him - that Wickham was awesome!Mistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11436497955518156688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-10594634291250743202012-08-17T21:01:57.750-04:002012-08-17T21:01:57.750-04:00Excellent discussion post everyone! I thoroughly ...Excellent discussion post everyone! I thoroughly enjoyed it. If anyone has ever seen the movie Lost in Austen, there is a nice twist to Wickham that I find very intriguing!!!Midnyte Readerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10411332857885069319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-17124179582784454952012-08-17T15:01:22.641-04:002012-08-17T15:01:22.641-04:00Love this discussion! I agree, Tessa, Frank Church...Love this discussion! I agree, Tessa, Frank Churchill definitely deserves a shot at the title. He's a total tool. Wonder how long that marriage lasts. <br /><br />Also agree about Henry Crawford. Classic wants-what-he-can't-have-and-gets-bored-when-he-gets-it. Fanny made a lucky escape. <br /><br />As for Wickham, Lydia (indirectly) bought and paid for him. Whoever wrote the biggest check would have got him. Austen really does know how to write a rake! Or a loser wannabe rake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-87343757047603134282012-08-17T12:51:32.154-04:002012-08-17T12:51:32.154-04:00Haha, yes, Ale - I can't help but like him for...Haha, yes, Ale - I can't help but like him for being so convenient...but still! Kind of a dick move, yeah? ;P<br /><br />And Tessa, I ABSOLUTELY agree about Frank Churchill! He's definitely a bit of a jerk, and you can't help but sneer on subsequent readings of Emma, knowing what you know...Mistyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11436497955518156688noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-19406672964573826672012-08-17T12:38:44.258-04:002012-08-17T12:38:44.258-04:00I'd say that Willoughby is the biggest rake; a...I'd say that Willoughby is the biggest rake; although Wickham is pretty bad. <br /><br />Robert Ferrars is a real genius! I can't focus on how bad it was on his part to steal his own brother's fiance, when he so conveniently released Edward from evil Lucy's clutches.Alessandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06652990135572677170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2790614306320534072.post-20470428775445336042012-08-17T10:29:37.089-04:002012-08-17T10:29:37.089-04:00Henry Crawford is sincere in his love for each of ...Henry Crawford is sincere in his love for each of the women he pursues, but his interest in her is inversely proportional to her interest in him. He likes Fanny because she won't have him. He likes the thrill of the chase. Had Fanny accepted him, he would have quickly gotten bored.<br /><br />Wickham is a villain, but Willoughby wins the title for biggest rake. He seduces a young girl and then abandons her. At least Wickham stays with Lydia and Wickham seems like the type to for the most part go for women that can handle him while Willoughby preys on the defenseless. So Willoughby wins hands down.<br /><br />However, to little is ever said about Frank Churchill. What kind of jerk gets engaged to a girl then flirts shamelessly with another girl all the while dragging his secret fiance's reputation through the mud? Not okay!Tessahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05793766176722870142noreply@blogger.com